John Frederick William (Fred) Doar

Richard Doar
(Cal 1791-1831)

Margaret Blasdale
(1785-1842/1842)

George Doar
(1813-From 1893/1893)

Sarah Oldershaw
(Cal 1814-1865)

John Frederick William (Fred) Doar
(1861/1861-After 1920)

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Spouses/Children:
Sarah Wright

John Frederick William (Fred) Doar

Born: Apr to Jun 1861, Sandiacre ² ³
Marriage: Sarah Wright on 7 Jun 1883 in Ilkeston ¹
Died: After 1920

Other names for John were Frederick Doar and Fred Dore.

Chronology:

In 1891 he was a Blast Furnace Labourer living at Weavers Row No 2, Ilkeston with his wife and family. ⁴ ⁵

In 1893 Fred Doar, 33, Fireman or Iron Worker, late of Nottingham arrived in the USA bound for New Philadelphia, Ohio ("to sister Mrs Bankcroft"). ⁶

In 1900 he was boarding with William and Jane? Bancroft and their two children in Niles City, Ohio, USA. ⁷ ⁸

In 1910 there is a Frederick Dore (age UNK, birthplace OHIO, parents' birthplace UNK) boarding and working as a Coal Miner in Pike Township, Stark Co, Ohio which is not too far from Niles. ⁹

In 1910 his daughter's arrival documents indicate that he may have been residing in NY although it is possible that she was bound for this NY address close to where she settled as a domestic servant and had put her father's name against it. ¹⁰

In 1920 he was a Labourer, Steel Mill boarding with Fred B?acker and family in Niles City, trumbull CO, Ohio, USA. ¹¹

In the 1930 US census he has not been found possibly dying in the 1920s in his 60s. ¹²

John married Sarah Wright on 7 Jun 1883 in Ilkeston.¹ (Sarah Wright was born Cal 1862 in Ilkeston ⁴ and died Jan to Mar 1893 in Derby ¹³.)

1 The Church of Latter Day Saints, International Genealogical Index, www.familysearch.org/, Frederick Doar
Father: George Doar
Spouse: Sarah Wright
Marriage: 07 JUN 1883 Ilkeston, Derby.

3 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Births Jun 1861
DOAR John Frederick William Shardlow 7b 372.

5 Chris Andrew (candrew AT kingston.net), 1891 census: No 2 Weavers Row, Ilkeston Derbyshire
RG12 2667 5/3
Frederick DOAR Head M 29 Blast Furnace Labourer Derbys Sandiacre
Sarah DOAR Wife M 29 Derbys Ilkeston
Mary DOAR Dau 7 Scholar Derbys Ilkeston
Sarah Ann DOAR Dau 4 Scholar Derbys Ilkeston
Margaret DOAR Dau 2 Derbys Ilkeston
.

8 Chris Andrew (candrew AT kingston.net), Working with all of the info we found last night, I think we can say
that the Bancrofts were from the Ilkeston area. Attached is the WWI
draft card for their son William Henry where he says he was born in
Ilkeston. He did not provide next of kin information which leads me to
think that a) his parents had died or b) left the country, since I
cannot find them in 1920. William is not on the 1930 census, as far as
I can tell.

They apparently emigrated about 1889 so do not appear on the 1891 UK
census. In 1910 the names were William and Jane. I found a couple in
1881 who seem to fit.

15 North St, Ilkeston Derbyshire
RG11 3326 82/21
Richard BROADHURST Head M 26.Ag Lab Staffs Brierley Hill
Ellen BROADHURST Wife M 27 Staffs Wednesbury
Jane BROADHURST Dau 1 Derbys Ilkeston
Jane PERRY Sister in Law U 25 Worcs Strowbridge
Eliza PERRY Sister in Law U 23 Worcs Strowbridge
William BANCROFT Boarder U 26 Gen Lab Derbys West Hallam

Free BMD gives us the following:

Marriages Dec 1882
BANCROFT William Shardlow 7b 847
BROADHURST Samuel David Shardlow 7b 847
CLIFFORD Millicent Phoebe Shardlow 7b 847
PERRY Jane Shardlow 7b 847

Samuel Broadhurst and Millicent are on the 1891 census, thus eliminating
them.

I wanted to try to figure out who these people were as I felt that
either a friend or a sister would have been geographically connected to
Frederick Doar and we should be able to find something in an earlier census.

The children named in the 1900 census were Gertrude and William BANCROFT.

Births Dec 1885 BANCROFT Gertrude Lizzie Basford 7b 135
Births Jun 1887 BANCROFT William Henry Basford 7b 164

I didn't find Gertrude after 1900. She appears to have married as the
Bancrofts have a grandchild with them in 1910.
.

10 Chris Andrew (candrew AT kingston.net), Ellis Island website:

17 Oct 1910 SS Arabic - Sarah A Dore, 24, domestic serv, to visit father, Mr Dore, Fred, 327 E Warn St, Amsterdam, NY, born Ilkeston, NOK Aunt, Mrs Selby, 16 Wellow Terrace, Nottm,

7 Apr 1912 SS Caronia - Margaret Dore, 23, domestic serv, visiting father, Fred Dore, 119 Morse St, Niles Ohio born Ilkeston England, last permanent residence Sheffield.- UK contact Mrs Shackleton in Sheffield.
.

13 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Deaths Mar 1893 Doar Sarah 33 Derby 7b 335. Not Ilkeston but likely to be her.