(Source of Stowmarket Area) Lucas
(Bef 1750-)
(Father of Needham Market Brothers) Lucas
(Abt 1770-)
Mary
(Cal 1775-)
John Lucas
(Cal 1805-Bef 1851)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Sarah McIntrye

John Lucas

  • Born: Cal 1805, Suffolk 2
  • Marriage: Sarah McIntrye on 16 Jan 1826 in Barking, Needham, Darmsden, Suffolk 1
  • Died: Bef 1851 3 4
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  General Notes:

Theory :

John Lucas was one of at least four sons of ???? and Mary (nee ??) Lucas, b1774, Suffolk (see UPDATE below).

John's brothers were James b1796, Gardener; Thomas b1798, Thatcher; and William b1803, Dealer and Huckster. John married Sarah McIntyre in his home town of Needham in 1826. She was still a minor and born in Leith in Edinburgh, Scotland. (Did he bring her back or was she already in Needham?). From the known birthplaces of his children he lived in Needham until the mid 1830s when he moved into Stowmarket where in 1841 he was described as a Hawker.

Sometime after 1841 it is likely he moved to Essex, possibly Manningtree then Harwich probably working as a fisherman. By 1851 Sarah was described as a widow but she had with her a son, Thomas, 5 months old. This name fits well with John's theoretical father's name.

From at least 1824 in Needham there was also a Thomas Lucas, shoemaker and wife Sarah both b abt 1775 in Creeting - this couple seemed a possibility for parents of the boys especially considering the 3 generations of Thomas' staring w Thomas b1798. An IGI entry (submitted only) has a Thomas & Sarah Brooks married in Creeting in 1798 too late for James' 1796 birth. James could be of another family but the fact that he and Thomas were born in Coddenham suggests that at least these two are brothers.

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  Chronology:

In 1841 he was a Hawker living in Stowmarket, Suffolk with wife Sarah and their four children. I've been unable to find him in 1851. 2

In 1854 at the time of daughter Esther's marriage he was described as being a Fisherman. 5

He worked as a Baker before 1857. 6


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John married Sarah McIntrye on 16 Jan 1826 in Barking, Needham, Darmsden, Suffolk.1 (Sarah McIntrye was born Cal 1810 in Leith, Scotland 7 and died after 1851 8.)


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1 The Church of Latter Day Saints, International Genealogical Index, www.familysearch.org/, Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. JOHN LUCAS Male
Spouse: SARAH MC INTYRE
Marriage: 16 JAN 1826 Barking,Needham, Darmsden, Suffolk
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. Probable - just down the road from Stowmarket and date fits
(and also in 1851 there is an Eliza Lucas in Harwich, 22, b Needham).

2 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1841C.

3 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Death.

. Deaths Dec 1846
Lucas John Bosmere &c 12 253
Deaths Dec 1845
Lucas John Tendring 12 155
Deaths Mar 1850
LUCAS John Rochford 12 145
Deaths Dec 1857
Lucas John Tendring 4a 1*
Ordered these with ref checking that he was b 1795 to 1810 (30/10)
26/11 none passed except Rochford and that is not him - "husbandman" 61 of Great Holland (no wife mentioned).

4 (http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/), Possibilities ......
1. Name John LUCAS Date 22 Nov 1846 Aged 42 Place Barham Description St Mary Denomination Anglican County code SFK

2. Name John LUCAS Date 6 Sep 1848 Aged 43 Place Harkstead Description St Mary Denomination Anglican County code SFK



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5 General Register Office (England & Wales) Certificate, http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/home.asp, Marriage WH&EL 1854.

6 General Register Office (England & Wales) Certificate, http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/home.asp, Marriage JML&AH.

7 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1841C, 1851C.

8 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Deaths Dec 1855
Lucas Sarah W Ham 4a ___
Deaths Sep 1859
LUCAS Sarah Jane W. Ham 4a 34
Deaths Mar 1861
Lucas Sarah W. Ham 4a 21. First 3 below ordered 30/10/7 - ref chk birth 1805 - 1815
Deaths Jun 1860
LUCAS Sarah Poplar 1c 381
Deaths Mar 1853
Lucas Sarah Ipswich 4a 411-
Deaths Sep 1862
Lucas Sarah Bosmere 4a 314
26/11/2007 None meet criteria except Ipswich which is wife of James of Salt house Lane see 1851 C.