Joel Hale

Joel Hale
(1784-1852)

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Spouses/Children:
1. (Unknown)

Joel Hale

2. Elizabeth Mitchell

Joel Hale ² ³

Born: 1784, England ⁴ ⁵ ⁶
Marriage (1): (Unknown) circa 1805
Marriage (2): Elizabeth Mitchell on 12 Dec 1820 in St Peter Port, Guernsey ¹
Died: 9 Oct 1852, Guernsey ⁷ ⁸

General Notes:

Joel's date of birth is likely earlier than 1786 - 1791 suggested by the 1841 census on which his age was recorded as 50 (or 50 - 54 when the 5 year bands are considered). On the 1851 census his age appears as 66. When his death was reported in the Guernsey Comet in 1852 his age was given as 68. The next year, his son Thomas placed a death notice in the Melbourne Argus and referred to his father as being in his 69th year at the time of his death. These sources all suggest a mid 1784 birth. According to the two censuses his birthplace was England.

This would fit with a December 1804 certificate now in the possession of Thomas' descendants. It marks the appointment of a Joel Hale as a Master Mason. The suggested 1784 birthdate would fit with Joel joining the Freemasons at age 18 and and becoming a Master Mason a bit before he turned 21. My knowledge of the workings of Freemasonry is scant but the Wikipedia entry suggests that this may be possible. It is just possible that Joel the Freemason may be the father of Joel born 1784, although in 1820 at the time of the younger Joel's marriage to Elizabeth Mitchell, Joel senior is described in the St Peter Port parish register as "of Wulcot, Bath".

This earlier birth date could help explain the origin of the third Joel, living with the family in 1841 and described as 30 at the time. It seems very likely that this Joel was a son by an earlier marriage, probably between 1804 and 1810.

In St Peter Port in 1841 there is also a John and a William Hale both born about 1807 on Guernsey and a John Hale an agricultural labourer born between 1786 and 1790 in England. Like Joel the youngest, the younger John was a sailmaker and William a tailor (an occupation surely not that dissimilar to sailmaking?). Joel b1784 had boys named John and William by his second wife so it is very unlikely that the other John and William are his children but considering the names, the occupations the dates and the vicinity, it does seem likely that they are related. One possibility is that John and William are the sons from a first marriage of John b1788 and maybe even John could be the brother of Joel b1784.

[From Grose's 'The Antiquities of England and Wales', 1777] Guernsey is 6o miles s. w. of Weymouth, about 26 W. of Normandy, 21 from Jersey, 5 from Alderney, and six from Sarke. It is about 12 miles long, nine broad, and 30 in circumference, containing 50 square rniles or 32,000 square acres. It has 10 parishes. The air is healthy, and its soil, like Crete and Ireland, is said to admit no noxious animal. It abounds with fish, particularly a fine sort of carp; and its rock produces a kind of emeral, very hard. The island is plentifully supplied with corn and cattle. Nature has defended it with a ledge of rocks, and art with an old castle, and a pier constructed of vast stones, thrown together with great art in the days of Edw. II. Here is a great scarcity of wood for fueling, which is supplied by the sea vraic.

Chronology:

He emigrated before Dec 1804 from England To Guernsey. ⁹ (based him being born in England and his father being in Guernsey in 1804)

He worked as a Publican from 1833 to 1841 and resided at Court Street, St Peter Port, Guernsey. ¹⁰ ¹¹

He worked as a Dealer in Secondhand Goods in 1851 and resided at Court Street, St Peter Port, Guernsey. ¹²

He worked as a General Dealer before 1856. ¹³

He worked as a Gentleman before 1860. ¹⁴

He worked as an Upholsterer in 1861 and resided at Guernsey. ¹⁵

Joel married (Unknown) circa 1805. ((Unknown) died before 1820.)

Joel next married Elizabeth Mitchell, daughter of William Mitchell and Jane Caws, on 12 Dec 1820 in St Peter Port, Guernsey.¹ (Elizabeth Mitchell was born on 27 Jan 1799 in Portsea, Hampshire ¹⁶ ¹⁷ ¹⁸, christened on 13 Jul 1804 in Orange Street Now King Street-Independent, Portsea, Hampshire,¹⁹ died on 12 Oct 1857 in Lonsdale Street East, Melbourne ²⁰ and was buried on 14 Oct 1857 in New Cemetery (Melb Gen) ²¹ ²².)

1 Letter - Rosemary Hale 2003 Email including a two page family history.
Emails - 2007, Marriage. Guernsey. St Peter Port church register. Joel Hale, son of Joel, of Wulcot parish in the City of Bath, and Elizabeth Mitchell, daughter of William of the parish of Portsea in the county of Hants, were married together on the 12th Dec, 1820.

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2 Web (Misc), http://www.themaritimegallery.co.uk/ (7 October 2009). St Pierre Port (St Peter Port) Guernsey C1830

Steel engraving of St Peter Port Guernsey by W Finden from an original painting by C Stanfield R.A. circa 1830.

The picture, which has later hand colouring, is a little discoloured with a brown line around the border from a previous mount. Once remounted and framed it will look fine, otherwise in good condition. Size of engraved area 140m x 90mm Ref no: 1233.

4 NLA Newspapers online (TROVE), On Saturday, the 9th of October, 1852, in Guernsey, in the sixty-ninth year of his age, Mr. Joel Hale, the beloved father of Mr. Thos. Hale, of the firm of Messrs. Hailes and Hale, builders and timber merchants, of this city. - "His end was peace.".

5 Letter - Rosemary Hale 2003 Email including a two page family history.
Emails - 2007, Possibly from Bath where his father was "of" in 1820. (Although his father may have retired there).

7 Letter - Rosemary Hale 2003 Email including a two page family history.
Emails - 2007, Death. Guernsey. Guernsey Comet, II Oct, 1852. Died. - on the 9th inst., Mr Joel Hale, aged 68 years, formerly of the Cross Keys Inn.
Source \endash " Guernsey Emigrants Into Australia 1828-1899" by David Kreckler.
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8 NLA Newspapers online (TROVE), The Argus Tuesday 15th February 1853 p4. On Saturday, the 9th of October, 1852, in Guernsey, in the sixty-ninth year of his age, Mr. Joel Hale, the beloved father of Mr. Thos. Hale, of the firm of Messrs. Hailes and Hale, builders and timber merchants, of this city. - "His end was peace.".

9 Letter - Rosemary Hale 2003 Email including a two page family history.
Emails - 2007, Father was of Walcot Parish, Bath but we know from his Master Mason certificate that he was established on Guernsey in 1804 (or ws this his father?).

10 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1841C. Details were also found here:

http://members.shaw.ca/Jerseymaid/peterport5.html Folio 18 Page 29
Court Street
M. Maingy (M) 55 Ind Y
Wm. Carre? 55 Hair Dresser Y
Sarah Taylor 25 F.S. E
Rachel Bot 55 F.S. Y
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Joel Hale 50 Publican E
Elizabeth 40 E
Joel 30 Sail Maker Y
Elizabeth 15 Ironer Y
Henrietta 13 Y
John 10 Y
Samuel 7 Y
William 5 Y
/
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11 Google Books, The Strangers' guide to the islands of Guernsey and Jersey PUBLISHED BY J. E. COLLINS, STATES' ARCADE LIBRARY;1833. (p.143). Taverns and Public Houses ------

Cross Keys, Joel Hale, Court st.

17 Letter - Rosemary Hale 2003 Email including a two page family history.
Emails - 2007, Portsea 1799.

18 The Church of Latter Day Saints, International Genealogical Index, www.familysearch.org/, Christening. To be confirmed but agrees with age at death to month, is Hampshire as on death cert, is Portsea as according to Rosemary Hale, and mother is Jane as is first daughter and father is William as is 5th son. Also Independent christening.

19 The Church of Latter Day Saints, International Genealogical Index, www.familysearch.org/, Christening. ELIZABETH MITCHELL
Birth: 27 JAN 1799
Christening: 13 JUL 1804 Orange Street Now King Street-Independent, Portsea, Hampshire
Father: WILLIAM MITCHELL
Mother: JANE.

21 Letter - Rosemary Hale 2003 Email including a two page family history.
Emails - 2007.

22 Melbourne General Cemetery, Baptist Compartment C 14
John Hale 3 years 13/12/1853
Elizabeth Hale 58 years 14/10/1857

(Unmarked - south west of main Hale C80-81 facing the path and south of a large marked Charlwood plot).

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